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<title>Comments on Cankiri 0.1</title>
<updated>2006-07-29T23:21:18Z</updated>
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<author><name>Michael Urman</name><uri>https://www.tortall.net/mu</uri></author>

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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
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<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-14</id>
<published>2006-08-06T09:04:57Z</published>
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<b>bloodsk</b>, I'm not sure what's going on, but you're not the only one to report this. Could you <a href="http://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/08/06/cankiri_2" class="out">follow up</a> with more information about your window manager or other relevant X settings?
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>bloodsk</name>
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<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-13</id>
<published>2006-08-05T20:00:11Z</published>
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I fail to use the function of capturing partial screen.There is only a frame displaying on screen which I can't move or expand when I choose "capture parial screen".I'm using ubuntu dapper.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-12"/>
<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-12</id>
<published>2006-08-04T11:50:54Z</published>
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Here's the link I really wanted earlier, but wasn't available yet: <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ericgu/archive/2006/08/03/687962.aspx" class="out">Premature Generalization</a>.
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<p>
Of course in an application the size of either Istanbul or Cankiri, the detrimental effects will not be as pronounced as the example in the article. I still think it's a bad habit to get into.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Zaheer Merali</name>
<url>http://zaheer.merali.org/</url>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-11</id>
<published>2006-08-01T13:39:02Z</published>
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Michael, I respect your point of view.  I am touched that you have put my name in the authors in the .py file.  Also feel free to ask GStreamer related questions in the gstreamer channel on FreeNode irc.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-10</id>
<published>2006-07-31T17:47:53Z</published>
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Ahah, <tt>OSError: [Errno 25] Inappropriate ioctl for device</tt> on the same line as <b>Duhr</b>'s traceback. Time to retire os.getlogin() for os.environ.get("USER"). Fixed in <a href="http://www.tortall.net/svn/mu/trunk/cankiri/cankiri.py" class="out">svn</a>.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-9</id>
<published>2006-07-31T17:23:21Z</published>
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<b>Jack</b>, I can reproduce this behavior. It's probably throwing an exception and since it's not going to xsession-errors for me I'm going to have to work harder to find it. Worthy catch, and will necessitate a 0.2.
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<b>Zaheer</b>, Feel free to take any of my code that you like back into Istanbul. I don't feel the complexity of the application space requires the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Ain't_Gonna_Need_It" class="out">hyper-generalization</a> mindset and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_bloat" class="out">over-modularization</a> present in Istanbul. I suspect a little friendly competition will help us both come up with better features, until the most useful ones emerge.
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-8"/>
<author>
  <name>Zaheer Merali</name>
<url>http://zaheer.merali.org/</url>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-8</id>
<published>2006-07-31T09:53:00Z</published>
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Hi Michael,
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Maybe we should work together on Istanbul.  The reason for having all these files is to make the code readable, and also make it easy to add new features.
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<p>
Zaheer
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<entry>
<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-7"/>
<author>
  <name>Jack Malmostoso</name>
<url>http://malmostoso.altervista.org</url>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-7</id>
<published>2006-07-31T09:01:35Z</published>
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Hi Michael, me again.
I think I found a bug: if I start cankiri from the command line, it works fine. If I start it from the menu (using the exact same command) it hangs on the "configuring" state.
Check it out: <a href="http://malmostoso.altervista.org/cankiri_from_menu.ogg" class="out">http://malmostoso.altervista.org/cankiri_from_menu.ogg</a>
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Obviously I had to open two instances of cankiri, but it happens with the first too :)
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I'll try again commenting. I think I filled up all the fields last time too, but you never know. It worked now. My bad, probably :)
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Stefan</name>
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<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-6</id>
<published>2006-07-30T18:08:31Z</published>
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Using Istanbul I can record fluest videos when first recording with a simple codec and then using theora afterwards. Maybe that would be a nice feature for cankiri as well.
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-5"/>
<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-5</id>
<published>2006-07-30T18:04:30Z</published>
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In my experience capturing data from X can be slow. I think various recent options help that, perhaps the "record" "Module" for X. <a href="http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul" class="out">Istanbul</a>'s FAQ also claims encoding overhead can be important, and suggests capturing a smaller area. The smaller area helps for either cause.
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Stefan</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-4</id>
<published>2006-07-30T17:54:10Z</published>
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Hmm, I don't know if this is due to xgl/compiz, but the recording is actually way too slow, videos end up being 5 images in total while recording time was something like 20 seconds.
I'll try with the old stuff soon...
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-3</id>
<published>2006-07-30T17:20:23Z</published>
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Hmm I have no idea what could be causing a OSError[Errno 2] around there.  You could try changing the whole call to <tt>save.set_current_name("screencast")</tt>.
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-2"/>
<author>
  <name>Duhr</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-2</id>
<published>2006-07-30T15:26:05Z</published>
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I tried your program under Ubuntu 6.06. I can start it, but as soon as i click on the icon it says:
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<pre class="block">Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./cankiri.py", line 185, in __button
    self.toggle_recording()
  File "./cankiri.py", line 232, in toggle_recording
    self.start_recording()
  File "./cankiri.py", line 314, in start_recording
    if self.query_save_options() != gtk.RESPONSE_OK:
  File "./cankiri.py", line 250, in query_save_options
    save.set_current_name(_("screencast-%s-%s.ogg") % (os.getlogin(),
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory</pre><p>

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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
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<author>
  <name>Michael Urman</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-1</id>
<published>2006-07-30T12:11:11Z</published>
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Thanks; glad to hear it works out of the box!  I'll take a look at the Opera thing when I get a chance, as it's my own implementation. A failure would surprise me because there's nothing Firefox specific about it. Perhaps you hadn't filled in all non-optional fields? No worries.
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<title>Re: Cankiri 0.1</title>
<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-0"/>
<author>
  <name>Jack Malmostoso</name>
</author>
<id>https://www.tortall.net/mu/blog/2006/07/29/cankiri_1#comment-0</id>
<published>2006-07-30T11:36:55Z</published>
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Hi there,  I just tried your software and it works like magic. I have never tried Istanbul but I guess I'll stick with your Cankiri! No installation, just copy the file. Lovely.  I hope it hits Debian as soon as possible!  Btw: tried on Debian Sid pure64, AMD64, python-gst 0.10.4 (IIRC).  P.S.: Your commenting system does not work in Opera... I can't "Save comment" after previewing it. None of your business I guess.
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